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good evening once again. we are now 140 days away from the election. that means there are just 20 weeks until americans go to the ballot boxes to decide who will be the next president. today the incumbent joe biden was making big moves at the white house. he announced a new executive action to shield undocumented

spouses of u.s. citizens from deportation. he called out donald trump for his comments about immigration.>> we can both secure the border in my legal pathways to citizenship. we have to acknowledge that the patience and goodwill of the american people is being tested by the fears at the border. they do not understand a lot of it. these are the fears my predecessor is trying to play on when he says immigrants, and his words are poison the blood of the country. folks, i am not interested in playing politics with border or immigration. i'm interested in fixing it. >> the president also marked the 12th anniversary of the deferred action for childhood arrivals program. >> the action we are taking today matters. just ask business leaders and labor leaders. ask economists and elected officials. they know it is good for american business in the american economy and america period.

>> of course, the economy is a central theme of president biden's reelection campaign. our nbc news reported key members of the cabinet are hitting the trail to talk up his economic accomplishments ahead of the june 27 debate against trump appeared he is drying an even sharper contrast with trump by taking aim at taxes. the president is promising to end the trump task cuts for people earning above a $400,000 while vowing not to raise taxes for anyone making less. we have more signs that a lot of investors continue to have a whole lot of faith in the economy. the s&p 500 closed at a new record high while the dow also finished the day on an up note. with that, but is smarter with the help this evening. our capitol hill correspondent and dear friend of mine joins us. us.

what does president biden's move to protect undocumented spouses mean in reality? >> this is potentially a true game changer for so many people in the community. it is a very common misconception right now. people have the idea that if you have come to this country without authorization and you marry a citizen that automatically confirms citizenship, but it does not be the only way a person can adjust their status in that type of situation is to leave the u.s. and return to their country of origin and then wait potentially three years or 10 years or maybe forever because that triggers a ban on the returning to the country. we have this catch-22 system and our immigration policy right now, and what biden is doing is fixing that, so now families can't split apart with

no guarantee of being able to reunite just to get a green card that the undocumented spouse is already eligible for. this is a big deal and also coming on the anniversary of where an immigrant heritage month i think this potentially could energize many latino voters and many on the progressive side of the party. >> our immigration system has been broken for years with congress doing nothing. president biden is not insisting that america can secure the border and create a pathway to citizenship for immigrants. what you think about that? >> i think that the messaging is outstanding because number one look at the contrast with donald trump you he has already promised mass deportations. detention camps.

and has even said he would not rule out family separations, so what joe biden is doing is sound policy but a very good politics. just to be clear president biden is not giving anyone anything. what he is doing for the undocumented spouses of citizens is he is a clearing an obstacle that would allow them to access green cards that they are already eligible for, so there is no reward for illegal behavior. this is a benefit that people are already entitled to. they just cannot access it without this extreme hardship and uncertainty.>> one advocate called this the biggest policy announcement since obama announced it. a big of a deal do you see this as? >> i think it is a big policy announcement absolutely and comparable to them in a lot of ways. and executive action that means that there is going to be a challenge to it legally of course and also means they do not have the same interim force that a law passed by congress has and is a less than ideal solution for those looking to

accomplish it. it's a way for biden to say i am doing what i can well congress is not taking action. it is also taking place at the exact same time that they took place. president obama did this in june of an election year. they are of course trying to appeal to the progressive part of the party and remind them that there is a difference between having president biden in the oval office and former president donald trump. it comes after president biden took some rather stringent action in terms of limiting asylum rights for those coming across the border, which upset a lot of people in the progressive wing of his party. he is trying to say you may be upset for that, but here is a solution on the other side of the equation. you mentioned the securing the border at the same time and trying to provide relief for those who are here in the

country. that is the same formula that they both promoted for years but never got congress to adopt. >> immigration and border security are huge issues for republicans, but also some democrats and those who do not have strong political affiliations, but they do vote. what are people on the hill saying about this move from the president?>> i think they were right at the beginning of this to bring up the fact that this was a move that was really geared towards assuring of progressives. i think certainly that was noticed today as i was reading through and listening through the reaction from congressional leaders who were both at the white house and voicing their opinion. i also think they're right to couple today's announcement with the announcement that came several weeks prior to its.

that was something that drew the ire of progressives and we also heard notions of that as they were praising this latest action today. on the republican side economics guarantee they are going to balk at any move they make on immigration either calling it too little, too late or saying that it's too much. certainly that was the reaction we saw today, but i think it's really important as we continue to talk about the role congress plays in continuing to not solve this problem. there was an attempt earlier this year. it was bipartisan in nature and putting on the table things that republicans did not think democrats would entertain and ultimately democrats will more than entertain them. they left them as a part of the deal. ultimately that was falling apart because trump signaled to republican allies on the hill that he preferred to keep this as a libel during an election year. we saw that field earlier in the year and then several weeks

ago just before we saw these executive actions from the president we saw senate majority leader chuck schumer once again put them on the floor in a last-ditch effort maybe, but definitely a political messaging vote to show where republicans were on solving an issue that is so central to their messaging point for the member and 2024. if everything to talk about for former president donald trump consistently. we have been out there with him for years now since the 2016 campaign. every time he's in a spot of pull in trouble he pivots back towards immigration. you know that, but watching the way that congress in the biden administration have tried to work on this shows that they want to highlight it as a 2024 election issue that they are really trying to turn in their favor.>> it should come as no surprise donald trump reacted to president biden's announcements and said this about migrants. watch. >> they give them welfare and food stamps. one of the catastrophic things

and one of the many catastrophic things that we are confronted with when they come in. crooked joe is sending a message to the world that he rewards illegal entry.>> there are voters all across the country who hear this and they believe it. our democrats framing their response in the right way? >> my sense is that democrats are beginning to frame their response in the right way. for starters, just for fax sake as we say not only is what president trump former president donald trump saying untrue that undocumented people do not qualify for these government benefits that he is mentioning. you can argue that people in the president's own family have benefited from this so-called chain migration, but the thing is for democrats especially coming into the debates they are starting to draw a good distinction between themselves and the gop.

it is a question that americans will increasingly have to want. do we want to be a country that is in favor of family separations or a country that is a least trying to keep families intact and to preserve our border security. i think the president deserves a lot of credit for recognizing the immigration issue is not just about border security. it is about our undocumented population. it is about people here with no ways to adjust their status, so he is in the bigger picture on this and is with the public. earlier this year they asked americans what they wanted in terms of immigration solutions be 56% said they wanted more pathways to legal status for the undocumented, so i think the president democratic party is on the right track. >> let's stick with this on a new topic now because for the last two weeks republicans seem to have had one single

strategy. spreading videos to make president biden seem feeble and old and unfit, but as like to say on this show the truth matters, but only if you see it. this right here is a video that the rnc published a president biden at a d-day event apparently struggling to sit in his chair, but in the full video you can see he was just waiting for the secretary of defense to be introduced. on a separate occasion another day the near post shared this cropped video of the president seeming to wander off during a skydiving demonstration at the g7. guess what they did? they ran with it. in the wide shot you can see the truth. that he is talking to several of the skydivers that are out of frame. outlets like fox news are saying that biden's pause at an la fundraiser over the weekend is just the latest example of supporters directing the president. spokespeople for the white house and jimmy kimmel says he was just taking in the crowd. now

the press secretary and others are calling these cheap fakes, but what it is is true the deceitful behavior that is not rooted in truth. the fact that this is what trump is going with. we have got months to go before the election. and he is making up and distorting things about the current president to win over voters. what does that tell you about how worried donald trump is or how little he has to say about his own platform? >> we have a contest here between two man of relatively similar age. president trump just turned 78 last week, and of course he himself has been questioned about the effect of age on his cognitive function and is trying to turn that issue against president biden.

two things can be true at the same time. there are plenty of reasons to ask questions about his age and affect. certainly moments where he seems to struggle to remember names or confuses facts or data and so forth. that happens. with these other conservative internet organizations and people are taking what is already out there and exaggerating and distorting essentially going way beyond what the actual facts are to create an image of a president that they hope will be effective . if you actually look at the original video and many of these cases you can see it is not the way it is portrayed. even their own videos sometimes if you click on them you actually look at what they say as a moment of confusion or odd behavior, and look at their own video and you can tell.

>> the argument the trump campaign wants to make that president biden is old and feeble. if they had a real argument to make why wouldn't they be showing real examples of it? both guys are old, and do you hear the president is a word or two? he has a starter. the fact that trump is making up or distorting stories to try to make his argument. a double up in his face? >> it seems like the only thing both campaign seem to agree on is that the other candidate is senile. i think your point is right below which is that the trump campaign could find the examples they are talking about. moments where he could chill off or forget a name, but they are instead opting for these

creative moments where a chair wasn't there but really it was or he wasn't talking to someone who is in the frame but that is really what was happening. i think this is all really going to be the thing that when we look back on the 2024 election we look at this as a hallmark of new miss and disinformation. at the same time as we are preoccupied around the fakes and what that looks like an celebrity culture and even revenge culture. there is a political threat to the, which is how it plays out in the way that people who are casual news viewers on social media metabolizing the 2024 election. this is really going to live in the echo chambers, but i think what is so important is you are watching the biden campaign and other members of the white house staff trying to in real- time fact check this. that is so important, but we all know the way social media moves, and it's so fast that most times a fact check comes too late. that would be a real challenge here. that is why you are watching so much concern around the new

strategy online from the trump campaign. it is one thing to emphasize in opponents weaknesses. welcome to politics. to do it fake is a different problem, and that is why there is concern. >> they also know that a lie goes around the world in milliseconds, and a correction is a whisper heard in the closet. i have not seen you in ages be great to have you back. peter, thank you. great to see you again. when we return. donald trump in damage control in wisconsin from his own behavior.'s rally today outside milwaukee where he tried to walk back his insult to the very city hosting this year's rnc. putin makes his first visit to north korea in 24 years. what it could mean for the war in ukraine. "the 11th hour." just getting underway on a tuesday night. it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks.

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president biden was busy making major policy mosby donald trump was in damage control mode today holding a rally outside milwaukee hosting the rnc in which trump reportedly called horrible last week. today's rally he tried to deny making those comments. >> i love milwaukee. i was the one that picked milwaukee i have to tell you.

these lighting people say he does not like milwaukee. i love milwaukee.>> he loves milwaukee so much that he was going to commute 90 minutes from chicago throughout the convention next month according to the new york times. after reporter started to press them about these plans the camp and reversed course and said he will and now stay in milwaukee, but is it too late? milwaukee is the largest city in a critical swing state that he needs in order to win the election. we have to bring in a veteran wisconsin radio host at msnbc contributor and columnist and author of the book how the right lost its mind. glad to have him back. democratic strategist and founder of brilliant corners research. almost an msnbc contributor. have that of a look is this for the trump campaign? do the people of wisconsin and

milwaukee know what he has done ? insulted their own town. >> yes they do. we always speculate about what breakthrough. everybody in wisconsin knows what he said. you cannot unring a bell and say i did not say that we have all of these other republican congressmen who are coming up with different explanations for why he was sent milwaukee was horrible and then you get the story about chicago. what you understand about milwaukee is it has always had a quasi-inferiority complex. a little bit of a chip on their shoulder. being in the shadow of chicago. these things tend to sting a little bit and they will also be remembered, so he is not able to script this one off the shoe and there is nothing he is going to say that is going to change that. >> it is good enough for me. here's what i really need help with. donald trump is insulting voters in a key swing state

that he needs. he is refusing to court nikki haley voters who are very loyal to her. explained to me how these could be the actions of a person who would like to win the upcoming election. >> despite all of that it is what we have all seen from trump and his supporters. they do not move. they are not going anywhere. he is not going to lose any support in wisconsin because he insulted milwaukee because his support is not based on that sort of thing. he has a base locked in. the question really is can biden really pulled back together that winning coalition that looked a lot like the obama coalition from 2012, but that coalition that eroded away in 2016. much of it eroding away not towards donald trump, but from hillary clinton and third-party

voters. >> we have to look at a video because i was talking about it in the previous segment of donald trump and republicans 24/7 just attacking president biden whether he is fit for office in sharing misleading videos of the president because they're trying to attack his fitness. put her misleading videos over here and let's watch a clip of what donald trump had to say today at his own rally. watch. >> joe biden. he is going to formally grant a mass amnesty. >> this guy is just the worst. joe biden, the worst president in the history of our country. will be a fading nightmare. >> a fading incoherent nightmare. one could say that is what they

just watched. if you are the biden campaign what do you do with this?>> you do what the trump campaign is doing. you try to weaponize it in a certain way. that should be relatively easy because you have these episodes of gibberish every single time he speaks, and of course that is going to be on display during the debate if it actually takes place next week. i think it was the atlantic that made the point that one of trump's great tricks that he pulled off was to convince many people in the media that this kind of incoherent gibberish is just sort of donald trump. you can kind of brush it off. there is an asymmetry where joe biden is held to a standard that if he misses words or stutters that somehow this is more evidence that he is losing. donald trump goes off and he is talking about sharks or batteries or the kind of incoherent ravings that you just mentioned in wisconsin.

same old, same old. that is a problem they are going to have to confront. >> i want to ask you about other swing states. pennsylvania and michigan. president biden according to some polls has dropped over 20 points among black voters since election day 2020. according to a new usa today poll. what do you make of these numbers? >> it is polls. as someone who worked for the obama campaign going into 2012 i assure you that barack obama was not aware he would like to be or where we needed him to be. it was like we have all of the change we need. we are perfect. it is about running a campaign. when i look at the drops, and

if you get more specific to the point i was making about wisconsin is also true about pennsylvania and michigan. she was off obama's margin almost an exact percentage of those i called the obama continue on. the more diverse voters. the third-party voting really hurt her ability to get to obama's margin in those states. if you look at those right now you have almost a third of african american voters not breaking for trump, but breaking the third-party. the same is true in pennsylvania. i am a lot less worried about donald trump's over performing. and of the media is fixated on it. the real thing is how you bring or stop those voters from breaking third parties. he has to make a case for himself the black voters.

>> we are not fixated on it here i can promise you that be great to see you and thank you so much. before we go to break i want to check in with the tracker. they warned investors a conviction in his near criminal case could cause the stock to dip, and it surely did. since the guilty verdict shares have tanked 39%. today the company said it had gotten the green light from the secretary to make more shares available. that means to reward donald trump with more shares and others, but also means a diluted value for each outstanding share that is out there, and on that news prices dropped 17% in after-hours trading. that is a drop, but don't forget donald trump's steak is still worth billions. we are going to keep watching transmedia stock and make sure you know what is really going on every day. when we return the new arms race begins as ukraine gets more help with weapons from the

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today russian president vladimir putin made a very rare visit to north korea.

a crucial supplier for arms and russia's war in ukraine. our nbc national security correspondent has more on the arms race. >> russian president vladimir putin just arriving in north korea. only his second trip to the isolated nation and more than two decades hugging the north korean leader. another sign of a deepening partnership between the men with him looking for assistance with military technology well putin is getting a major boost for his war in ukraine. north korea has sent millions of rounds of ammunition, artillery shells, and missiles to russia according to u.s. officials. ukraine now getting more help from the u.s. from this new factory in texas. here the u.s. military produces artillery shells. the kind they are sending to ukraine. at the beginning of the war the

u.s. made about 14,000 rounds per month. now they are at 30,000 and expected to hit 55,000 per month by the end of the summer. the u.s. is still months away from catching up which produces at least 100,000 rounds every month. >> you need to step it up even more. >> i think we need to produce more. i think we need to invest more in munitions, and we are doing that. >> even with russia and north korea are produce in the u.s. dharma secretary insists there is still an american advantage. >> you have to compare the quality of what they're producing and what they are getting frankly from countries like north korea. it is not the same quality as what we are producing. >> here to discuss his former u.s. ambassador to russia and msnbc international affairs analyst. he joins us tonight from seoul, south korea. i need your help on this one. this is yachting season for the russian elite. north korea is not where vladimir putin likes to go on summer vacation. what does this visit tell you about the state of the war from when it comes to russia and

ukraine? >> i first just want to say it is purely coincidence that i am here when he is in north korea. i am not following him around the world. second. this is a great question because it underscores putin's desperation. he would not be here if the war was going well. you would not be here if he had enough artillery shells and ammunition to keep fighting. that he is so desperate that he is coming to what used to be a state even for north korea even for russia. when i was in the government a decade ago we were cooperating with the chinese and with the russians and other partners to stop them from getting the kind of weapons and technology that putin is now pledging today because he is so desperate that he is holding hands and riding in cars with kim jong-un be one of the greatest pariah state in the world today. that is how desperate he is.

>> what does north korea get out of this? >> we do not know for sure, but the reporting from the biden administration officials is that he is going to get a lot. think of this as a low technology transfer to russia. artillery shells for high technology military or kind of technologies that could help the modernization of his nuclear weapons program. i can tell you that right here that is the concern of the south korean allies. this is a bad deal for everyone. this makes ukraine less secure and also makes our south korean allies less secure. >> these dictators share one very big fan. here is a clue to our audience. it is not this ambassador.

watch this. >> what you make of the north korean leader? >> at a young age he was able to assume power. he was able to do it, so obviously he is a pretty smart cookie. >> the problem is not that he is smart, which of course he is smart, but the real problem is that our leaders are dumb. >> all of these leaders are at the top of their game mentally. they are at the top of their game.>> how much does it help them to have trump back in the white house? >> i know that putin is thinking better than kim jong- un, but you are absolutely right to underscore that president trump the only president in american history that embraced both of these dictators. he said he fell in love with kim jong-un. he actually said that. those are his words and not mine. we all know about vladimir

putin where he has never criticized him ever, and i just want to remind people. what did they get us? nothing. in terms of american national interest. with respect to your question mr. putin is waiting for donald trump to be reelected. all of his commentators on tv talk about it. they wait for it. they think that this will be a great blessing for their war efforts in ukraine, but i would say more broadly that a return to trump is a return for normalized relations in their view between russia and the united states. >> thank you so much for being here. you are always helpful when we need to get smarter uncomplicated stuff. when we return we are going to do our favorite thing on this show. follow the money. a new must-see documentary uncovers how the biggest world powers are trying to control our most vital resources. the team that uncovered it all joins me on the other side of the break when "the 11th hour" continues. continues. d.

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it is all about power really and food is a very obvious and essential way to wield power. i am honored to welcome the producer. and emmy award- winning journalist at the center for investigative reporting. she joins us. the director of the movie. congratulations on this very important film. let's start with you because this whole thing started with the sale of a major food producer here in the u.s. how did that push you to begin this reporting?>> that is right. i looked at how the largest meat company was effectively won, and at that time the u.s. senate was trying to figure out

if the chinese government was behind the deal, and i was able to dig into it. i was able to show they did back the deal and it was a part of their five-year plan. their national strategy to go overseas and control food and water supplies. i think when i dug a little bit deeper and asked why they want to do that that's when it set me off on this course and journey of reporting because what i discovered was that powerful countries all around the world are increasingly looking at food and water as the strategic asset of the 21st century as their way to control power. wiley e coyote saguaro is and pumping up the aquifer and having an impact on the locals in that area, who are seeing their wells go dry to zambia, where i went and worked with this amazing human rights

attorney, a zambian attorney, and he began showing me what was happening as foreign companies were coming in and buying up land and turning it into big commercial farms and shipping that green overseas too many of these other countries. you are seeing this impact in arizona and all the way in zambia, throughout the americas. it has become a global phenomenon. >> gabriella, let's tangle up this web even more. there is a wall street connection to this, especially when it comes to leasing likened to these foreign countries. can you explain what is going on, why they would be doing it? >> that is really needs area, his reporting. one thing we've learned from our experts who were cia, dod, some of these folks you wouldn't imagine being in the food sector was that we don't have a national water strategy, we don't have a national water policy. what ends up happening is you only really have a national

water odyssey, let's say, or strategy or see it as national security when we are at war. when we are at peace, we do business and water is business. so, thereby allowing the wall street into these kinds of connections to water is going to the highest bidder and it is being grabbed up, powerful entities are grabbing up, whether it is wall street, whether it is corporations, whether it is actual countries, powerful entities are grabbing up what is underneath us without us knowing it. >> let's go back into wars, nathan. the film gets into this issue of wars causing food prices to rise. explain how. >> yes, this is something that came out of my reporting as i began talking to people in the u.s. intelligence community and the department of defense was increasingly they were seeing that conflict, you know, conflicts are from a myriad of reasons, people are getting upset with their government, high unemployment. increasingly, they receiving

food prices were rising, food availability one is, food was growing more scarce and as that happened, people would get more and more upset and so you would see these regional conflicts over these resources start up and those regional conflicts could become civil wars, overthrowing of government, potentially even international wars. so, this is the trendline that the dod and the intelligence community season moving forward into the 21st century. >> gabriella, there's a lot of heartbreak in this movie. nathan said, more than any other reporting, it is this project that kept him up at night. i know there's also a lot of hope in each. what do you want to see happen as a result of this film? >> it is such a good question, i am so glad you saw that side of it. you know, i think there is, once you realize that there is something dehumanizing and something about human agency that is causing this rather than this existential environmental, climate change

of things that seem beyond our control. once you realize it is human agency causing these things, you realize human agency could fix these things. and, what we do see is an interconnectedness. we see the arizona farmers from these red states having more in common with the folks and the villagers in zambia. you see that there's plenty we can do as human beings. one, you know, you could start doing life differently tomorrow in terms of wasting food. you know, we throw away a third of it, we eat too much water intensive foods. there is so much that we can do. getting up tomorrow, that we can do differently. and then we do probably need a national water strategy. we do need to see this as a universal story. i always said that water is the universal, shared story. this is something that is, you know, a river starts with me

and goes to the community and through another community. everything that i do with that water happened in my community, will affect you downstream. we need to start thinking about this and, you know, locking arms, essentially, to try to do life a little better. >> nothing more powerful than water. nathan, gabriella, congratulations on this project. this is called "the grab," please see it. it matters. when we return, we will remember together one of baseball's all-time greats. willie mays. when the 11th hour continues. ah man! and if you don't have the right auto insurance coverage paying for this could really sting. so get allstate.

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the last thing before we go tonight, saying goodbye to the say hey kid. the family baseball legend willie mays announced he died today at the age of 93. considered by many to be the best baseball player of all time in the willie mays dazzled in new york and san francisco with his big hits and unbelievable catches in his two decades in the big leagues. willie mays once said "you respect the team you play, the guys on the other side. that is how the game works. way to win but appreciate the opposition." some very good advice from an all-time great. he will take us off the air tonight. on that side but a beautiful note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i will see you at the

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